“People want an app they can download and everything is sorted.” The revered British psychotherapist sits down with Claire Ptak and Danielle Radojcin at Port Eliot Festival to talk about the differences between how men and women deal with loss; how she has managed having children, grandchildren and a career; why she can’t cook, and why kick-boxing is her downtime activity of choice.

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